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why the picture of Teresa Teng continues to be deleted on wiki commons? what's going on? Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 14:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can see the reason why here Evaders99 (talk) 04:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find anything. It says the page doesn't exist. Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 14:20, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template Short description

Changed short description (use to show suggested search in search bar) to <<Taiwanese singer (1953–1995)>>

Teresa Teng was born in Taiwan. In chinese language wikipedia all reliable sources points her as 臺灣女歌手. Another similar singer Fei Yu-ching as Taiwanese (and in chinese lang wiki 臺灣男歌手) too.

Both are descendants of civil war refugees which are still Taiwanese, for the fact that they are born in Taiwan.

Ethnic chinese are different than chinese citizens which are referred to PRC citizens. Chinese-Singaporean singer aren't chinese singer.

Unlike Fei-Yu-ching who retires but like Dolores O'Riordan Frank Sinatra who passed away, I follow the convention to mention (year born - year demise).

(about this talk page <<Script warning: One or more citation templates have errors; messages may be hidden (help).>> I tested enter a blank space character before edit this talk page and the error message is already there, so that error was already there)

Cat12zu3 (talk) 17:06, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Next Shark

Do Next shark considered reliable? An Asian-American publication.. Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 14:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PUFFERY in the lead

Arorapriyansh333, since you have reverted my previous attempt at rewording the lead, I am opening this thread having reinstated it. Please discuss before reverting.

Here are my issues:

The qualifier of emotionally resonant seems like pure WP:PUFFERY to me, as it designates a purely subjective reaction. It is not an encyclopedic phrasing, and there are better, more neutral ways to state that her music has found acclaim or had popular success. I have a similar problem with captivating audiences.
I fail to see why we need to list all the boundaries that were transcended by Teng's music. If she transcended boundaries across Asia, it's a given they transcend geography and language, at least. On that note, I believe my previously-suggested wording found success across comes across as more neutrally descriptive; "transcend" carries extremely positive connotations, to the point that it's the type of, again, PEACOCK-y language that you'd find on one's website, or perhaps on a promotional brochure. That said, this is less significant to me than the other issues, so I have not reinstated that part.
This quote of "Wherever there are Chinese-speaking people, there is the music of Teresa Teng" requires a source. We absolutely cannot use a quote that doesn't have a source or cannot be found in the article's body in this way, especially not on a WP:BLP. I will remind you that the WP:BURDEN of demonstrating the verifiability of information is on the one that wishes to add or restore said information. Please do not remove the template until you have done so. If you fail to do so, I will remove this quote as unsourced.

Thank you. NewBorders (talk) 06:03, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do appreciate you removing this obvious bit of puffery, though. NewBorders (talk) 06:07, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

NewBorders (talk) you can add what you think is good. I reverted because some of it I didn't find it conclusive, if not all. I don't think there's much wrong with phrases like Emotionally resonant songs cuz that's what she was known for. Maybe the use of word like "resonant" sounds a bit subjective so u can remove that part if you wish.

"This quote of Wherever there are Chinese-speaking people, there is the music of Teresa Teng" requires a source."

Source is already provided from South china morning post however it was removed by another user due to issue of dublicate links. The link is provided in the first citation in the first part. You can add that citation again in the part if you wish.

Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 06:49, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I look up to it and I appreciate your edit on correcting the said part. Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All right, thank you very much for your responsiveness and collaborativeness. Thank you also for citing the quote, that's all I was looking for.

If other users take issue with a duplicate link in the lead like this, I think having said quote in the body of the text, linked to that New Yorker article, is a viable alternative. My only problem was that the quote both didn't have a source, and couldn't be found in the body.

Unless you genuinely think "emotionally resonant" should be added back, I say we leave this as is, it looks good to me. NewBorders (talk) 18:49, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, also: I don't actually mind phrases like "emotionally resonant" and "captivating audiences", as long as that assessment is provided by a reliable source, and preferably in quotes as well. I only think it's problematic, and crosses into PUFFERY, if we say it in wiki voice as though it's objective fact. NewBorders (talk) 18:51, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]